Made in the USA

Been wanting to do this post for awhile, but due to time and brain cell constraints it’s been sitting in draft status since this XDL Powder Alert vid. The french/freedom press/unamurrrrcan line I wrote made my brain do it’s ADHD/tangential thinking thing that keeps me up late at night, thinking about how the confluence of the internet/information availability, the recent economy and corporate economics has created the perfect negative storm for many in the industries we all love.

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A majority of consumers these days make their (short-sighted?) buying decisions solely on the best available price, creating a race to the bottom for retailers – and as you’ve likely seen in your hometown the brick and mortars will lose 9 times out of 10 to the online retailers. The B&M retailers value adds are usually some blend of knowledge (which has been outsourced to the internet), customer service (though not always if your local shop is a brobrah too cool for school – though most of those mid-90s relics exist only in memories and tattered up stickers on the lift towers at Ski Acres), and ‘product experience’ (aka inventory, shit you can touch/feel/try on).

Retailers know that there is a subcategory of consumer that comes in, tries on everything, and leaves – only to punch the barcode or product name into their fruitphone (there’s a reason Target, Amazon, and other retailers are giving away shopping apps, and it’s not because brand recognition pays the bills…) and order from the cheapest possible place online – wasting employee man hours and thus $$ that could be better spent servicing customers that actually have intent to purchase product from these retailers. Sadly, those consumers don’t identify themselves upfront, so there’s no way to charge only that subset a cover charge to come into the shop or just ignore them, so this unquantifiable expense will likely always exist (and it’s likely growing), and retailers will have to find other ways to differentiate themselves. (NOTE: If you’re that guy I don’t want to hear you complaining in two years when your local shop has gone away and you’ve got no place to go to fondle new gear or pick up the latest vid in September to get your stoke going)

Shops like Seattle based evo have done a a great job at evolving without losing their street cred. They’ve curated a nice mix of both the big mainstream and more niche product lines, and their retail and online arm operate seamlessly together, allowing them to capture some of that online dollar without resorting to a Sierra Snowboards style swap meet/selling shit out of your trench coat on the street corner pricing strategy to gain (negative margin?) market share. (Yes, I’m ignoring for a fact that the sales they capture online are likely NOT just consumers who would usually walk into evo but instead are purchasing from them online, thus cannibalizing some other shop’s shot at a sale, but I’m temporarily suspending reality and choosing to believe that the only people buying from them online are those with local shops that don’t carry or won’t order the brand/specific product they need OR their local shop is a too cool for school/brobrah shop that think their mere existence provides value to consumers and thus not a tear will be shed when it’s consumed by market forces)

Long tangent summarized: don’t be that guy, and if you ARE that guy at least give your local shop a chance to capture your sale and price match (plus shipping costs, etc.) what you’re about to buy online. Failing that, in the words of a-man “kill yoself” (I guess that’s not a direct quote, he would have likely used more caps, more punctuation, and threw in a 9 or something)

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We are lucky that many of the companies that were around at the start of this whole skiboarding thing are still around, with many of them still making their product in the USA. Better yet, most of these American made products are able to compete both on price and performance – which in other industries is often NOT the case and the consumer pays a ‘tax’ (be it price or quality/performance) by buying locally. A side benefit of being made in the homeland is they don’t shit where they sleep – many of these companies are far more environmentally forward in their processes than those abroad. From soybean topsheets to Forest Stewardship Council certified wood to windpower to soy wax, many on this list are leading the way.

It’s worth nothing that ‘made’ can have various connotations, running the gamut between mere assembly to every raw material going into the product being sourced in the USA – and given all the time in the world, a million monkeys and a million computers I could come up with a proprietary scale taking all sorts of factors into account, but as I’m short time, monkeys and computers that’s not going to happen. Also note that there is a considerable difference between MADE in the USA and DESIGNED in the USA. When someone is advertising the fact that their product is designed in the USA I look at it as red, white and bluewashing, which based on some commercials I’ve seen lately is the new greenwashing. I can summarize my simple minded thoughts on it as follows: one creates additional jobs on the assembly line, thus getting more people we know paid, and more dollars flowing into our local economies, whereas the other just may make crock pots.

HOPEFULLY as snowboarding continues to grow, and splitboarding becomes more popular, consumers will continue to recognize the value of these (sometimes niche) players and they will continue to exist and thrive and not go away ‘as their once-unique products become commodities made cheaply overseas.’ The list below is just a short smattering and will continue to be updated as I think of additional companies. I’m not saying that everything on the list is of higher quality than product X you may be looking at, just hoping to plant a seed of bigger picture implications of your dollar’s voting power for the next time you’re faced with a purchase decision of two products of comparable quality, price and utility.

Libtech/Gnu – They’ve been around since day one. Certainly the most mass recognized and produced name on this list, and likely the most innovative, but did you know their snowboards, skateboards and surfboards continue to be manufactured in the USA?

One Ball Jay – Forever linked to Mervin above, 1BJ continues to manufacture their waxes right here

Karakoram – 94% of their parts are made in the USA, 91% of them in Washington state, and assembled just down the 90 from their testing grounds.

Spark R&D – The OGs of the splitboard binding game, manufacturing and/or assembling all their bindings in Montana.

Venture Snowboards – Bomber snowboards, splitboards and skis(?!) manufactured in Silverton, CO using 100% windpower.

Signal Snowboards – Started by Dave Lee (yeah, that Dave Lee) and manufactured in the flatbillin’, chromed out/raised up/never seen dirt monster truck capital of the world, Huntington Beach.

Never Summer – Denver’s in the house and spitting out high quality sticks since ’83

Winterstick – Some guy by the name of Tom Burt designs the boards, manufactured by CO based Wagner

Freeride Systems – A rarity for outerwear, Freeride Systems actually manufactures their apparel here in the US

OwnerOperator – Well out of my price range, Owner Operator’s New York made gear has that Mollusk or Thalia St. vibe

Batwaves – If you were around in the 90s dissing Batwaves is a lot like dissing Dre – you diss them you diss yourself. The same simple design, long cuffed, Cordura nylon goodness you remember (albeit at a bit higher cover charge), still manufactured in Idaho.



Purl Wax
– Fluoro- free wax made in Summit County, CO
I know this is just a smattering, who’d I miss?

17 comments to Made in the USA

  • How about a few other narrow ass snowboard companies pressing skis in the USA? 4Front for starters. I suppose when you start listing ski pressers, that list will get silly long.

    disclaimer, I ride Lib Tech skis, and I love them.

  • Justin

    Yeah, thought about that but the list would have really gotten crazy – 4frnt, Lib, Venture, ON3P, etc. etc. I should include ’em all though…

  • Why no mention of Unity Snowboards?

  • Justin

    No mention mostly because when I put my original list up I wasn’t thinking about them. Already thought of them, Chimera, Icelantic (since they have the Gemini), etc. just need to add ’em all. Anybody else just drop their names in the comments.

  • Justin

    I should also say Unity are like hen’s teeth and unicorns out in these parts, don’t recall the last time I saw one of their boards!

  • Jason

    Smokin snowboards…..

  • Justin

    Ooh, yeah, good catch Jason

  • i always axe if shops will match a price i can find online or in OR(tax free!). they usually roll with that. win-win.

    i think if BM shops are gonna legit compete with online…they need to make it known they gonna match any price. Wakeboard Evo does it. Boom – http://www.evo.com/lowest-price-guarantee.aspx

  • Justin

    I think long-term them taking a temporary hit on margin to either gain a new customer or to keep a long-term customer happy, no brainer, as long as it’s within reason. Any sort of fly-by-night web shops with everything 50% off, obviously no, but a BC.com/REI/etc. type shop having a 20% off sale, sure.

  • yeah, im sure nw sales of xcel wetsuits in the last year have taken a shit because of WM.

  • Justin

    yeah, that’s a whole ‘nuther ball of horseshit that i wanted to touch on in that post but had already droned on long enough. basically, the companies that produce way over any reasonable level of expected demand and then hope to 1) have shops carry their shit (without giving them MASSIVE incentives upfront) and 2) expect consumers to take their shit seriously without ever seeing MASSIVE discounts on it. i mean hell, xcel makes good suits, but would you ever consider buying one a full pop now? the libs and the smaller mfrs of the world that typically underproduce (relative to demand as mervin obviously makes a shit ton of boards annually but you usually only see a handful of their decks on a prior year’s sale rack vs. eight dozen burtons, couple dozen K2s, etc. – this year is going to be an anomaly though the way the winter has been tho) tend to hold their brand cache with consumers and retailers. constrain supply to create demand, works for pliny the younger right?

  • i guess it depends how/who online liquidators like WM get their shit. if they do get em direct from companies like xcel…then if i were a BM shop i’d be inclined to not order new shit the following year or get some sort of refund….as a result of getting fucked via competing crazy low prices…

    i have a feeling that xcel/burton, whatever don’t have any control on what shows up on WM.

    i like the idea of half priced gear though.

  • Justin

    I think it’s most likely 50/50. Given that WM has had hundreds and hundreds of Xcel suits, and will sell out of their inventory (just check DepartmentofGoods for totals) and than miraculously have a few hundred more in a couple weeks, leads me to believe they are getting volume discounts direct.

    As far as prior year stuff showing up there, or buying inventory from shops going out of biz (aka they won’t be able to reup their inventory), etc., that’s always going to be a reality of the biz and am OK with that. Just tough for local shops to compete when they’re blowing out this year’s product at 50% off retail.

    And yeah, half off is better than full price to my wallet as well.

  • JimmyDaugherty

    Never heard of Owner Operator – cool stuff. Doesn’t Siganl Snowboards press their boards in California?

  • Justin

    Yup, you are correct, and they are on the list under Venture! I had to doubletake as I could have sworn I’d originally included them

  • Just noticed this, great thread.

    It got mentioned, but just to make the point Chimera Snowboards are made in the US (not just assembled), from scratch, using almost entirely US-made materials. The few materials that are not US-made are sourced through US suppliers so that every dollar contributes to the US economy at some point. Also, these boards are conceived, designed, built, etc by an all-snowboarder crew (and one skier).

  • Justin

    Noted. Late summer/early fall I’ll ping you guys and will put up a full piece on your story and the offerings for the new season.

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